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I assume that with uni-voted you mean a vote of 1?
If so, I don't see it. I have no personal interest in neither down nor upvoting your articles, so please accept my opinion as that of a disengaged outsider.
If for instance I look at this answer:
http://www.codeproject.com/Answers/80037/IRC-or-chat-chanel.aspx[^]
Then I see that you have two votes, totalling 4.6, which means that it ought to be one vote of 4 and one of 5.
And most of the rest of your answers look similar...
I might be wrong, though...
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Johnny J. wrote: Then I see that you have two votes, totalling 4.6, which means that it ought to be one vote of 4 and one of 5.
It's not that simple. Votes of high-order members are weighted, so you can't just add 'em up and divide by 2. There's a FAQ around here someplace that spells out the details, but it's really not worth searching for; the voting system is an albatross and should be nuked. Uni-voters have been terrorizing CP for far too long, IMHO.
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Hans Dietrich wrote: It's not that simple. Votes of high-order members are weighted, so you can't just add 'em up and divide by 2. There's a FAQ around here someplace that spells out the details, but it's really not worth searching for; the voting system is an albatross and should be nuked. Uni-voters have been terrorizing CP for far too long, IMHO.
I partly agree Hans, but despite an univoter attack on his article the fact that it is still rated a high 4.6 is testimony to the effectiveness of Chris' status-graded voting system. 3 years ago, the rating would have been 3 (5 + 1 / 2).
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I think your choice of words gives away how you feel; you call it an "attack". It is an attack, and one that should be prevented, and not simply patched-up by people voting 5.
This has all been discussed before, ad nauseam, and there's no good reason to perpetuate this bogus down-voting.
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Johnny,
Since i posted the the original message, someone else had been and upvoted a couple of pages worth of the univoter answer, hence the 1 votes appearing to disappear, so whoever did that, thanks for the generosity! It looks like they got bored after a while and stopped after a couple of pages, if you look further back at my list of questions answered you will still see a couple of pages worth 1 votes. [or they were there when i looked earlier this morning at least, haven't looked since].
It not so much the fact that they were voted down, its more the fact that there is someone taking the pi$$, if all the votes that were applied as a 1 were by the same person, then to me that individual should be warned by the site admins, or if it is the same individual as the issue with the article voting, then as a second wrong doing, have their account suspended or binned.
There are places on the net were this behaviour may be deemed acceptable, but I don't think we want The Code Project turning into one of those.
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I couldn't agree more with you...
It's extremely irritating when some idiots deliberately try to sabotage it for the rest of us... 
You have my sympathies...
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daveauld wrote: so whoever did that, thanks for the generosity
You're welcome. Sorry, but I got distracted otherwise I'd have done more.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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Like Vote 1 and Vote 2, is it possible to ask a mandatory message while some member changes their existing vote?
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There is for articles.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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This mean, If I down vote some article ( I have voted 5 earlier and now want to give 3 ) Message it mandatory ?
How to test ? 
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Hi,
it would be nice to have a personal ignore list like in other forums:
Postings from users on this personal blacklist will be ignored or marked (e.g. greyed out subject Message from this user ignored). The motivation behind this feature request is that there are members who stick out negatively. For example members who repeatedly repost the same questions or delete their posts. With thousands of members it's just human to have a few that can't follow the community guidelines or are just plain annoying. 
I know that you can vote down messages, when it is repeatedly the same user and talking to him hasn't helped then I would prefer to ignore this user's messages automatically in the future.
Just a suggestion.
/Moak
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Moak wrote: I know that you can vote down messages, when it is repeatedly the same user and talking to him hasn't helped then I would prefer to ignore this user's messages automatically in the future.
What happens when the user gets sufficient experience that they start asking questions that you are interested in? Suppose they've answered something correctly and you have the same problem - you'd no longer see the solution.
Also, this would place yet more strain on the CP servers because each user would have their own list. Another point to consider is what the effect this would have if you ignore a user who posts a message; would you want to ignore all the replies as well?
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Another point to consider is what the effect this would have if you ignore a user who posts a message; would you want to ignore all the replies as well?
And then there are replies to replies, and replies to replies to replies, and etc....
Eventually the subject is likely to become something other than troll bait; the lack of any good way to implement this has kept me from ever using a killfile back in the usenet era.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: What happens when the user gets sufficient experience that they start asking questions that you are interested in?
I can live with that. Then there is always the possibility to revise your decision later for individual users. From my experience with other forums, people don't end up being blacklisted quickly but usually stay there for a long time. A ignore list will not stand in the way of users changing their behaviour.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote: would you want to ignore all the replies as well?
No, the point is filtering text from disruptive people not to ban them for the whole community. From my experience with other forums this works even very well in long threads, it gives you a strong indications to read on or not.
Cheers, Moak
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Moak wrote: A ignore list will not stand in the way of users changing their behaviour.
No, but if you don't see them then you don't get to see that their behaviour has improved.
Moak wrote: No, the point is filtering text from disruptive people not to ban them for the whole community. From my experience with other forums this works even very well in long threads, it gives you a strong indications to read on or not.
And you end up losing context. Ultimately, you can see the user name easily, so just ignore them if you want to.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx
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Pete this is just a suggestion with additional features for those who want to use it, nobody is forced to use it. 
Let's assume for a moment you want to use it, it will give you new possibilities to ignore, unignore users, see ignored messages on a extra click (details depend on technical implementation, but that's how it works in other forums). As long as someone is on your personal ignore list, it's a concious decision that this user is more disruptive than helpful. With a ignore list you gain productivity and a more relaxing time. If you don't want to use it, nothing changes from your perspective.
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I agree, but I think there are bigger things for Chris and co to focus on hence the alternative viewpoint - I really don't see it as that big an improvement, but if we all agreed with each other all the time, this would be a really crappy site.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: but if we all agreed with each other all the time, this would be a really crappy site
[wavy line dream sequence]
CSS: Down with The Man. Down with The Government!
John Simmons: Actually Capn'n, you raise some excellent points regarding the lack of balance inherent in todays society vis a vis personal expression vs communal safety
Christian Graus: Exactly, John, and I think The Cap'n is spot on. I was just reading up on this on my fantastic iPad - which hasn't given me a seconds trouble, BTW - after a great conversation with my local Telstra rep (I really do have to rememeber to send him a gift basket) after my usual, wonderfully enjoyable Qantas flight.
CSS: Qantas? I've heard nothing but good things about them. That's wonderful, Christian...
[/wlds]
 OK, you're right...
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I know there are some who would like it but it would not, in my opinion, be a highly used feature and would create more issues than it would solve. Well, issues for us, in any case 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I totally agree, it is a 'nice to have feature' not an urgent one. Should have said that.
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When you post a tip/trick, the Date Posted doesn't actually show the date until some time after it was posted. For instance, I posted one on Saturday, and today the date posted reads "2 days ago". I personally think this serves no beneficial purpose as opposed to just posting the date.
The reason I'm asking is that it makes scraping the data (specifically, the date posted) a bit more problematic because now I have to have two different parsing methods and the possibility of having to do date math.
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IMO you won't win this one. Just check for "ago" and take it from there.
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Why do you say that? 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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1. for small timespans relative time is easier to humans than absolute time
2. easy scraping is not very relevant, those pages are for human consumption.
3. consistency; articles, forums, Q&A, T&T all should use the same.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.
I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
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For Tips n Tricks I think you're right: we should be showing absolute dates, no relative, since tips are less time sensitive than Q & A's.
You're just really trying to get me to finalise the API, aren't you?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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