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Someone is in a bad mood today, but my 5 only raised it 0.67.
The best things in life are not things.
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I was tempted to go with the whole Joe Friday thing, but I decided not to.
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Have another five - your answer is technically correct, and it's obvious that you spent time and effort on it.
I are Troll 
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I was going to write a mini-essay on the subjectivity of knowledge, and the reprecussions on what can be deemed a fact, but I got too depressed at the new low we seem to be hitting, and frankly this did the job even more effectively.
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Keith Barrow wrote: I was going to write a mini-essay on the subjectivity of knowledge, and the
reprecussions on what can be deemed a fact
I wish you had written it. I would have enjoyed reading it.
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hi to all..
we have made 40 RDLC Reports, now client want to take printout without export to excel or pdf..
is there any way i can give print option directly without exporting files??
thanks/rashmi
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How are you displaying the reports?
I'd imagine you will be showing them in the report viewer component - It's been a while since I looked at it but I'm sure that there is a print option built into the Microsoft report viewer toolbar.
HTH
Darren
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I think I'm starting to lose it.
I make corporate LOB apps and it is up to me what framework / pattern I want to use. For a good 5 years there it was ASP.Net. Now I can use SilverLight (with or without MVVM), MVC or ASP.Net.
And what about data access? I can use ADO.Net, Entity FrameWork, LINQtoSQL, Subsonic, My own POCO classes, Ria Services, WCF Services ect...
Just for sh*ts and giggles I did my last project, a web application with about 10 pages and 6 database tables all using my ADO.Net DataAccessLibrary that I wrote 8 years ago and standard ASP.Net. I still got application done in no time, the users were stoked cause I automated a lot of sh*t for them and it was a huge success. To top it off, the newest browsers are so fast, you can't even tell the difference between a full postback and a AJAX request on my intranet. AJAX is almost becoming irrelevant.
Oh and BTW, I have been investing some time in learning MVC 3. WTF, it feels like old school classic ASP. I guess it is cool, if you want to make something like face book. But for LOB apps, it isn't any easier than ASP.net...
I'm done ranting...
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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Because not every technology/method is appropriate to solve every problem.
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Because "corporate LOB" is a small part of the domain.
I are Troll 
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ToddHileHoffer wrote: ranting...
In future kindly take it to The Lounge[^] where it belongs.
The best things in life are not things.
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You need to choose the one you are most comfortable and familiar with.
The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it.
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Probably the wrong place to post this: lounge would have been okay.
Tend to agree with you anyway: Have been using LINQToSql and EF but Ado.Net is just as good. All that happens is that you add another layer of complexity to waht should be reasonably simple. I wouldn't use anything but Asp.Net for LOB or corporate apps: they demand functionality and speed and Asp.Net delivers.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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You have to choose what best fits your requirements / skill sets.
The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it.
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Abhinav S wrote: You have to choose what best fits your requirements / skill sets.
This makes sense. I have been doing ASP.Net for almost 10 years, so I can write these applications in my sleep. I have spent a two months learning / working on a silverlight MVVM application. I think the user interface is a lot nicer. My users, have only complained about the silver light updates. Many of them are using older PCs so the install isn't as fast as it should be.
Also, I find the MVVM programming rather difficult. All of the data binding "magic" hidden from me as the developer makes wrapping my head around things seem more difficult. I know it takes a little bit more work to set the property of control rather than data binding, but is nice to be able to set a break point and see exactly what is being set...
Really, the only reason for me to use something other than ASP.Net 4.0 at this point is to improve my resume.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Really, the only reason for me to use something other than ASP.Net 4.0 at this point is to improve my resume.
Yeah that is a good approach.
The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it.
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In addition to evident natural reasons, like different approaches are to be used in different situations and profitability of making users pay multiple times for the same thing, there is a fundamental one - it is impossible to do anything right first time and it is impossible to fix anything thanks to legacy applications. Thus, everyone starts anew.
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But not only that!! At one time, you could learn VB, for example, by reading two books - a programming (syntax) manual and a Programmers Reference (HowTo) manual. Those days have now gone. By the time the books come out now, they are usually a release behind. So you have to use the web to find things out.
That's when you discover there is no one place to go to find all the latest information. So you have to read blogs by ScottGu, Hanselman, Haacke, Sanderson, the Microsoft Development Team, and any other blog site that wants to put their 2 pennyworth into the arena. I think the finding of information on the web takes up most of my time when I program these days.
The other problem is that there are now so many classes in ASP.NET that can be used to achieve a particular result. I have given up on trying to use the Help text within ASP.NET. Because of the complexity, they can't give full examples; they would just take up too much space. So it is next to useless. That leaves asking questions on Forums; and that presents a new set of problems. You ask your question and then get two, three ways to achieve it, none of which are ways you understand. So you start searching the web, again.
I'm 68, retired now, and trying to learn ASP.NET, MVC3, EF Code First and C# at home on my own. I wrote my first program in 1962-3, in what language I can't remember, and I have been programming on and off ever since. But I find that the modern frameworks and languages appear to be much more complicated in some ways than they need to be, but so much easier to use in others. Take EF Code First, for example. I think that is a wonderful piece of work.
That's enough from me. I've got an event calendar to code.
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I both agree, and sympathise!
Examples are the best didactic method invented.
"Help files" without them are rendered "Hindrance files".
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Yes, I've looked at that one, but I can't afford to buy things nowadays, except my operating system and ASP.NET, of course. Iy's just what I want, but I will have to make do with a free one off the web with lesser function.
Thanks for your nice comment.
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xiecsuk wrote: I'm 68, retired now, and trying to learn ASP.NET, MVC3, EF Code First and C# at home on my own. I wrote my first program in 1962-3, in what language I can't remember, and I have been programming on and off ever since. But I find that the modern frameworks and languages appear to be much more complicated in some ways than they need to be, but so much easier to use in others. Take EF Code First, for example. I think that is a wonderful piece of work.
Wow, and I thought I was an old codger! I've been at this since around 1976. You've REALLY been 'round the block!
My take on the original question is this: pick whichever technology that suits your purpose and become highly proficient with it. Learn multiple technologies, sure, if you NEED to. In my case I found that building my own SIMPLE library around ADO.Net to get at SQL Server is all I need to develop my commercial applications. They're blindingly fast and my coding is consistent from one module to another. Sure, there exist tons of other ways I *could* do it and if I was just trying to pad my resume with a lot of terminology I might do that - but I'm focused on building a product, not on being able to rattle off a list of technologies that I "know".
What I'm interested in hearing is "Wow" coming from my clients when they see how elegant and fast and ACCURATE the application I just wrote for them is. I don't think any of them care what tool (how old or new) I used was to craft their application. Who cares that I wrote the whole thing in assembly? <grin> (Actually it's all in C# but you get my drift!)
True craftsmen are more focused on the output of their tools than they are on constantly having the latest and coolest tools to impress their friends. I figure that with VS2008, SQL Server and Active Reports (my main tools) I'll be able to continue to craft stuff for many years that can run in many places. I'm off the upgrade train with my tools for now. I got code to write. Later!
-Max 
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Max Peck wrote: VS2008, SQL Server and Active Reports
.  Those are the tools I use too! I also wrote my own orm tool and dal library (similiar to Subsonic, but works with Access dbs too).
- S
50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
Code, follow, or get out of the way.
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