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The surface pro is not good enough with graphics as it should have been. I tried using my Surface Pro to run a graphic software BlackInk, and the performance was horrid!
It is time Microsoft understands the importance of graphic power, and equip their Surface 3 with an AMD or NVIDIA card and stop with the bullshit Intel integrated graphic.
Microsoft, if you are listening. Create a new edition, at least, of the Surface Pro 2 where you insert a dedicated graphic card inside.
Yes, I understand this will impact heavily on the battery time, and yes the surface will be more noisy as it needs more coolant. BUT at least it is a choice the end user can make so suit their needs.
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Not going to happen. For a tablet the Surface Pro is already too chunky to be viable anywhere outside of Redmond. If you need better gfx than the standard low power Haswell offers you're probably going to have to wait for Saltwell's die shrink next year which probably will double it. Something built around a 35W Haswell with Intel's top IGP (GT640M equivalent) isn't totally out of the question; but if it happens it's almost certainly going to be an 11.6/13" tablet+dock combo not 10".
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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To compare Surface Pro to a tablet or even calling it a tablet, is so wrong that it borders to the point of being axiomaticly wrong. Its like comparing an Iphone 3G with IPad 4, or saying that the IPad 4 with cellulare module is a phone!
The Surface is a tablet, the Surface Pro however is a PC/laptop shrinked to almost a tablet size.
Only thing Surface Pro shares with a tablet is Touch capabilities, period (except from obvious hardware things).
There is nothing stopping Microsoft, or others for that sake, to put graphic power into these devices. They would gain more of the marked, which consists of people on the move and work with graphics. Or semi gamers!
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If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck; it's a duck.
Designed for fingerprint smears as primary interface method: Check.
Hardware keyboard is an optional accessory: Check.
Marketed as a fondleslab: Check.
It's a tablet.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I voted no, because I am aiming at a Surface 2 Pro 512...
But if it was for a tablet, I would, with no hesitation, pick Surface 2 or Surface RT. They are at a good price at the moment, and can do a lot more than other tablets:
- Surface 2 has free Microsoft Office, including Outlook. This is HUGE against the competition. It has USB3 port.
- Android tablets are toys really (I own a Sony Android tablet, I know what I talk about). Booting time : 2 minutes... (far too long).
- I also was given an iPad, to develop for it, but, well, what to say... I am at a loss with it: I am really not in love with its design (for example, I find the edges too thin, almost cutting, meh), it is quite heavy, the gestures are not logical, etc.. iPads were here first, but now, it looks like they lack behind. No ports (= no way to get my pictures on it).
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Ok, If you love Microsoft enough to get a Surface and you still can't get pictures onto an iPad then you are doing it wrong!
There are many options!
Cloud: SkyDrive, iCloud, GoogleDrive, DropBox
Wifi Sync
USB Sync
And what is not logical about the gestures?
Most high end tablets are much the same in terms of usage and I find them all extremely useful in my daily life. If I could afford a Surface I'd probably get one of those as well!
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It's just not worth it!
I'll likely try the new crop of < $400 convertible(laptop/tablet) using Bay Trail, or one of the Bay Trail Ultrabooks. Some starting at $249, see Fall 2013 Windows Tablet Preview[^]!
They have the better battery life with only slightly less performance.
Although I do think the "Blade" concept in Surface Pro is a winner, but here again, MS screws up and provides no SDK for developers!
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I'm tempted by the bay trail devices too; although marginally larger Haswell device is tempting if cheap enough. I have an HP Envy x2 tablet/netbook that I bought shortly after w8 launched; and like I suspected at the time BayTrail/Haswell is going to make it a one year lifetime computer.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I would be more inclined to get a Surface 2 Pro
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Microsoft has been missing the boat too much lately. the surface commercials where they try to compare themselves to an iPad is evident they don't even know their own competition.
you want something inspirational??
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Yes, I've already ordered one
Yes
No
Maybe
Can you repeat the question
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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With the new Haswell processor, I'll finally get "most of the day" battery life. I'll get the dock and the power cover too. I will probably get my daughter the Surface 2 (RT) version. It's a great replacement for the iPad.
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"No Elephanting way!!!"
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous ----- Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience Greg King ----- I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific. Lily Tomlin, Actress
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I did not think that Surface 2 was the WinRT toy...
I would buy the Surface 2 pro... not sure why they keep naming it "Pro".
They should name it
"Surface 2 RT" versus "Surface 2", the Pro should be the default
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Don't know - I prefer the RT version. At least it can't run regular Windows malware.
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I don't get why so much people care about malwares on windows.
I have no anti virus, and the last malware I had was 4 years ago.
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My current mobility gadgets include:
Samsung Galaxy SII (planning to replace by the new Note 3)
Toshiba Portege Z830
Kindle Paper White (on the way)
With these 3 I manage to have:
- A good "phablet"... Note 3 is big enough for me as a tablet and also a phone.
- A very light, thin and powerful laptop
- A comfortable device to read anywhere without having to hold a brick
To get a Surface I would have to drop all this. Sell my laptop, don't buy the Kindle and replace the SII by something similar or smaller.
So... maybe in my next gadget refresh, in about 2 years I might get the Surface 3 if it's lighter (and ever exists)
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So yeah, I was going to buy the first one, but here we are a year later with Surface 2 Pro and the first one is still not available where I live.
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I am very happy with my Surface I. I'm waiting for the start menu to come back and an OS that treats it as a real computer.
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WinRT is just dead for me mostly because you can't do runtime IL generation on it (what were they thinking).
Surface Pro is compelling with the gen 4 Intel chips, but for a tablet I will probably wait for the next next generation for competing battery life, for a PC/laptop/ultrabook I would probably get a "real" ultrabook instead.
A programmer walks into a bar and asks the bartender for 1.00000000000003123939 root beers. Bartender says, I'll have to charge you extra, that's a root beer float. Programmer says, better make it a double then.
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They were thinking security. It is impossible to do a security analysis on software that generates its own code.
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The same can be said for the full framework, so... ?
A programmer walks into a bar and asks the bartender for 1.00000000000003123939 root beers. Bartender says, I'll have to charge you extra, that's a root beer float. Programmer says, better make it a double then.
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Waiting for the next iPad series ....particularly ipad mini 2
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