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Dalek Dave wrote: I am not above pettiness, but I cannot abide racism, or the French.
I don't think the French are considered 'white' are they?
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What has ethnicity got to do with race?
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Go back far enough and everyone's family tree has roots in Africa. That's where the human race is from, and that's the only "race" there really is.
There will always be people who fear and (therefore) hate anyone who is different from "their" group, no matter how ridiculous the "difference" is. I once heard an Irishman complain (in a rather racist manner) about immigrants, which floored me as an American.
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There's a song in the show "South Pacific", You've Got To Be Carefully Taught
It explains the whole system so well that, when the show was going through it's original off-Broadway shakedowns there was a very strong push to remove the song. The authors, fortunately, were adamant and it remained.
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Last week , India launched its 1st mission to Mars. Last weekend I was talking with my nephew and he was totally going nuts about this launch and declared that he wants to be a "spaceman" and was giving many trivial facts about mars. He informed that whole school was watching this launch on TV live. So I went back to internet and started reading on this, quite impressive story but then something struck me odd. Some articles were little bias,
Quote: The extent to which countries were motivated by pragmatic interest or prestige varied from nation to nation. "For a country like Australia, the space aspirations are extremely pragmatically driven. On the other hand, a country like Malaysia is intent on putting astronauts in space -- that's very prestige-oriented."
Really, Its not pragmatic for Malaysia.
Also other critics pointed that India still have poor people in streets. Thats true but why this should stop India from launching mission. Throughout the history, Men/Women/Nations have dreamt big inspite of hardships.
They can be mutually exclusive. Investing in science will help us in future.
Eg,
In 1999, India was hit by typhoon which resulted in 10,000 deaths.
--Change--
In 2013, India was hit by typhoon which resulted in 0 Deaths
During this --Change--, India launched 30+ commn/weather satellites, which resulted in properly predicting the storm path/intensity and helped in proper evacuation and saving of life.
If this launch triggers some hundred young mind to take applied science over "Software" , then this is mission is already as success
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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"You have poor people on the streets and are still taking international aid."
"So since you can afford space missions and nuclear weapons, you should not have any international aid."
Discuss.
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I was hoping for you to respond with this issue. thats why I did not mention 300 million aid from UK in my post.
Please ask your PM (current and past) why they insist of giving grants to Indians. I dont remember Indians asking for it.
When Moon mission was launched, furore was raised for giving them aid. India said, they dont need it. But UK insisted of giving the aid. Its bad not to accept when others are hell bent in giving. 
cheers,
Super
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modified 12-Nov-13 6:10am.
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It's given because most of it then gets spent with companies who are run by mates of UK ministers.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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Exactly. It takes tax money out of the visible area of the economy.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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India has spent 45 million to get to Mars.
We want to spend 42 billion to get to Birmingham.
Discuss.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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Blimey! Rail tickets are getting dear.
speramus in juniperus
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ChrisElston wrote: We want to spend 42 billion to get to Birmingham.
What do you mean "we", paleskin?
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Well, quite.
My main objection to HS2, despite the second phase crossing near where I live (my car actually came to a rest next to the sign saying "HS2 crosses here" on Sunday) is that it is not imaginative or interesting enough.
If you must spunk billions away on a pointless project, at least make the finished product entertaining.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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A huge roller coaster to Brummigem?
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Cold, Devoid of of life, Unwelcoming atmosphere.
Probes have been sent before and there is very little reason to go back.
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Birmingham isn't that bad 
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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I'll tee them up, you hit them.
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I take it you've never been there.
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I live about 30 miles from Birmingham. Been many times
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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I lived in Edgbaston for almost 8 years, and have learned to hate few things in my life more than the five-ways roundabout.
It's a shame that the geniuses in the planning department can't be subject to capital punishment.
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I think those geniuses are now working in Worcester!
but my first IT job was Erdington during the petrol strike in 2000
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Nobody want to get "to Birmingham".
Many want to "get away from Birmingham" and preferably as fast as possible...and the same applies to the other cities HS2 will service.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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Ah yes, it is the Fast Conduit to the south.
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Dalek Dave wrote: Discuss.
No.
Never discuss money with capitalists or tories -- they've spent far, far more time and energy on thinking up spurious, self-serving arguments than you have.
If you want to discuss people, peoples, nations, the future, aspirations, and/or things that will benefit mankind, take money off the agenda.
Here's one for you personally: How much time does your precious Doctor Who spend on working out how much money he can make?
There's not much point in having heroes if you decide to live a life that is completely antithetic to theirs.
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Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
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