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Tom Deketelaere25-Mar-15 9:02

25-Mar-15 9:02

Agreed it's in the wrong forum, but should we nuke him for that?

We have a free tools forum:
http://www.codeproject.com/Forums/1627782/Free-Tools.aspx[^]
And as far as I can see the "tool" he created is free.

So perhaps a comment that he should post it there should suffice? And then close the "non-question".

Tom

ZurdoDev25-Mar-15 9:35

ZurdoDev

25-Mar-15 9:35

I agree.

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

http://www.codeproject.com/suggestions.aspx?msg=5028362#xx5028362xx[^]

Thanks787225-Mar-15 19:38

Thanks7872

25-Mar-15 19:38

Programmer : A machine that converts coffee into code !

Tom Deketelaere26-Mar-15 1:50

Isn't this article spam or, at best, off-topic?

26-Mar-15 1:50

Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov25-Mar-15 3:33

Re: Isn't this article spam or, at best, off-topic?

25-Mar-15 3:33

I think the article Exam: 70-486-Developing ASP.NET MVC Web Applications[^]
by http://www.codeproject.com/script/Membership/View.aspx?mid=4072087[^] is nothing but spam.

It looks like participation in the commercial activity around those Microsoft certifications. What science, technology or software engineering does it discuss, what does it teach? Nothing. This is a set of references, with highlighted priced for books, and, among them, some free of charge resources. Money, money…

I strongly believe we should never accept any posts related to certification. It has nothing to do with the topics of our site, or, say, real education. This is nothing but bureaucracy built around software and developers. And, as it turns out, commerce…

If we accept discussion or certification, why not discussing, say, salaries of software engineers? Smile | :)

—SA

Sergey A Kryukov

modified 25-Mar-15 10:19am.

Manfred Rudolf Bihy25-Mar-15 3:56

Manfred Rudolf Bihy

25-Mar-15 3:56

Well said Sergey! I'm no friend of this Micro$oft money machine either.
First of all the prices are way through the roof and secondly what do you learn?
You learn for passing a test.
No deep understanding!
No real insight!

I

hate

it! Period!

P.S.: Way back in 1999 I got to know some MCAs our company hired to take care of our infrastructure. They weren't worth the money of the paper that certificate was printed on.

"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

Ron White, Comedian

What's the use?

Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov25-Mar-15 4:10

25-Mar-15 4:10

Thank you, Manfred.

Ah, now you are about the use of such certifications… Totally agree with you. I never ever met a person for whom the certifications were useful in any way. This is just scam. If some companies give some importance to it, this is their problem (and again, no benefits). Nothing can replace systematic study. But can it provide a little help? I don't thing so. It can help creation of the illusion of knowledge, which is worse than lack of knowledge. Overall, I think the effect is predominantly negative, not even counting the loss of money.

Also, take a look at this recent article: .NET Interview Questions and Answers - Code Examples. I down-voted and explained why I think the article is bad:
.NET Interview Questions and Answers - Code Examples.

One more: Top 10 HTML 5 Interview Questions.

—SA

Sergey A Kryukov

modified 25-Mar-15 10:17am.

Re: What's the use?

Tom Deketelaere25-Mar-15 4:46

25-Mar-15 4:46

Personally I agree with you on the whole certificates thing.

But this:

Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov wrote:
If some companies give some importance to it, this is their problem (and again, no benefits)

is not entirely true. The company's do get some benefit from it, better license prices, free licenses, ...
It's not a measure of knowledge tho (as they would like to believe), not even close to it.

So yeah it's all about money.

Tom

Re: What's the use?

Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov25-Mar-15 5:09

25-Mar-15 5:09

Whatever… I just don't care about that. This is still their problems. Smile | :)

It doesn't make all the certification scam (as I think) any better.

Thank you for your comment.

—SA

Sergey A Kryukov

Re: What's the use?

Tom Deketelaere25-Mar-15 8:57

Re: Isn't this article spam or, at best, off-topic?

25-Mar-15 8:57

Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov wrote:
This is still their problems

True

Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov wrote:
It doesn't make all the certification scam (as I think) any better

Also true

I guess programmers have different view on these certificates Smile | :)

Tom

den2k8825-Mar-15 4:16

den2k88

25-Mar-15 4:16

I totally agree. This is advertisement pure and simple. Yes, it regards programming; no, it's not an article or a resource of CodeProject.

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Spam in QA

OriginalGriff25-Mar-15 2:49

OriginalGriff

25-Mar-15 2:49

This: http://www.codeproject.com/script/Membership/View.aspx?mid=11554438[^]
Is asking QA questions (deleted) about colonic treatments.

Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

Gone

Sergey Alexandrovich Kryukov25-Mar-15 3:34