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I have been having trouble off and on on Win10 where I :
Windows Defender Has File In Use
1. download a file to my <users>\..\downloads directory and then when I attempt to copy it elsewhere Windows Defender is taking so long that it won't copy the file because it is busy scanning it.
No Access To File I Own
2. Now, this morning I downloaded a image file and I attempted to preview it and Windows 10 (built-in) photo viewer or whatever tells me I do not have access to that file because I am not the owner. What?
It's quite terrible.
Anyone else seeing this lately?
I'll reboot, but it's so annoying.
Oh, it looks like I was able to rename the file at the <users>\..\downloads location and then I owned it.
Whatever, Win10! 
EDIT
Here's a link to someone else who has seen very similar issues:
[Issue] Windows defender locking up downloaded files for a long time. : Windows10[^]
modified 10-Apr-16 17:31pm.
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It would appear that you are wrong. This is NOT a repost.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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If being pissed off at the piece of cr@p that is win 10 means you're a troll, then the number of trolls in the world has increased a thousandfold, in the last few years.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I don't know. All he said was mine was a repost, but he was wrong as all trolls are.
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raddevus wrote: There's another one who is only a series of numbers for its name.
Not 9082365, Shirley!
Having opinions isn't trolling. It'd be as dull as a three-quid silver teapot if we all had the same opinions about everything.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: It'd be as dull as a three-quid silver teapot if we all had the same opinions about everything.
I agree 100%.
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raddevus wrote: No Access To File I Own
But you don't own it. You downloaded it so its owner is clearly not you! That at least is the logic that preview seems to use although I've only seen it with images downloaded from emails. Bring up the properties window and confirm permissions and it'll be fine. A bit annoying but hardly worth throwing your toys out of the pram!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Yeah, Defender annoyed me so much I paid for Kaspersky - Defender would come in at 14:00 every damn day and scan the whole PC, monopolising all cores and making it pretty much unusable. And whatever I did to tell it to do it at night it ignored...
I haven't seen any problems with downloaded files not belonging to me: do you use a D/L manager that might be running under a different user?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: do you use a D/L manager that might be running under a different user?
Very good question, but I don't. I was just previewing an image via download from a royalty-free image site. When the image landed in the normal downloads directory it was inaccessible. I just thought it was odd.
Thanks for the input and ideas.
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Call me cynical, but do you have a link for me so I can confirm the behaviour?
raddevus wrote: I'll reboot, but it's so annoying.
In which world does rebooting fix user-permissions?
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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The Windows World. I have encountered that issue once, and a reboot did fix it. I guess Win10 got confused. I haven't seen it recently, though.
It was late at night anyways, so shutting down and continuing later was needed.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Here's what seems to be happening?
1. The file is downloaded to the user's download directory
2. windows defender grabs the file and takes "ownership" (even though the user is running Chrome) so it can scan it to insure it doesn't include a virus.
3. defender eventually lets go of ownership -- unless something interrupts it where it continues to have ownership.
The reboot was in case something was running slowly or something so that defender was slowed down and I was able to see that the file was in the directory but defender wasn't done scanning it making me think I could grab the file though I couldn't.
This is 100% different from anything I've seen in Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows NT 4 (No ME or 98 for me), Windows 2000, Windows XP (Service pack1, 2, 3) Windows 7, Windows 8.1. So it was a bit odd and I thought I'd report it.
Just thought it was interesting.
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raddevus wrote: Just thought it was interesting.
It is, and it sounds scary.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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raddevus wrote: because I am not the owner. What?
Win10 owns you and therefore also owns the file 
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Well that is true, of course. I should've known better than to believe I could use files that I downloaded during my user session while running Chrome in my windows account.
It's crazy ridiculous of me. 
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raddevus wrote: No Access To File I Own
2. Now, this morning I downloaded a image file and I attempted to preview it and Windows 10 (built-in) photo viewer or whatever tells me I do not have access to that file because I am not the owner. What?
This is not a Win10 issue, it's older than that.
If you download files (knowingly or unknowingly) from unknown sources (no certificate) they will be blocked for safety.
You can unblock files using Powershell[^] or just simply do it in File Properties.
To remove this function you can either go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Attachments\SaveZoneInformation if it exists, or change the Group policy User Configuration → Administrative Templates → Windows Components → Attachment Manager → Do not preserve zone information in file attachments or add the site to the Trusted Zone.
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That's a great answer and interesting. Thanks.
I've just never seen it before I started using Win10.
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I have to tell two things to boss, and not sure how...
1. "If you pay monkeys you get peanuts"
2. To press on in a new field will lead to wrong roads
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: "If you pay monkeys you get peanuts"
Isn't that supposed to be "If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys"?
I'm fairly sure that if you pay people in simians, you get a Chimps Tea Party!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Two reasons to turn the phrase over...
1. Google translate get lost when translating back to Hebrew 
2. It seems lately boss hires monkeys (and obviously pay them) so most of our code looks like peanuts (or the peels at least)...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I'm told that if you pay enough monkeys they'll reproduce Shakespeare!
So anyway, if you're going to tell your boss at least make sure you don't tell him his plan sucks.
Bring it so that his plan may have benefits IF it works out, and that you totally get his decision to do it this way, but (and don't use the word 'but') also tell him you have some concerns.
Not easy, I know, but he'll be a lot more susceptible to your concerns if he thinks you're on his side.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Bring it so that his plan may have benefits IF it works out, and that you totally get his decision to do it this way, but (and don't use the word 'but') also tell him you have some concerns.
Not easy, I know, but he'll be a lot more susceptible to your concerns if he thinks you're on his side.
My parents told me that I should not tell lies...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: My parents told me that I should not tell lies...
They were lying!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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