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PeejayAdams wrote: It's somewhat distorting to compare Google's worldwide ad revenue with that of US news agencies alone, I'd have thought.
That's not what they've done.
google's worldwide ad revenue is over 100bn.
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As far as I can tell from the article, Google's global ad revenue from news is $4.7 billion whereas US news agencies make $5.1 billion, so that is very much what they've done. Apples vs. pears.
I'm not defending Google (total ad revenue for last year, an utterly terrifying $116 billion), just pointing out some rather disingenuous journalism.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Quote: disingenuous journalism.
Is there any other kind these days? 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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There is, but it's getting harder to find.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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PeejayAdams wrote: There is, but it's getting harder to find.
Yes, because hundreds of news providers have been driven out of business, and tens of thousands of good journalists have lost their jobs (and those who still have jobs are paid less and less year over year), because so much of the money that should have flowed into the industry has been stolen by google and facebook.
The relationship between the tech industry and journalism should have been symbiotic, where journalists fed google and facebook, and google and facebook contributed to the costs of the work, but google and facebook decided on a purely parasitic relationship, where they suck the life's blood out of the news industry, and, in return, they keep all the money.
It's getting to the point where even good journalists have to debase themselves by producing clickbait, just to scrape a few pennies -- it is destroying the news industry, and destroying the ethics of the news industry.
Soon enough, there will be no decent journalists left, but google and facebook won't care; they can just pay a few cheap hacks to make sh1t up, and they'll be perfectly happy with the moral and financial destruction they've caused, as long as they still get paid to dump ads on the same pages as the garbage.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: . . because so much of the money that should have flowed into the industry has been stolen by google and facebook.
Not that I have any love for Google or Facebook, but how was the stolen? If there were no Google or Facebook, the journalists would have had their stories shown once, probably just locally, with no, or almost no, additional monies coming in for any particular story.
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GenJerDan wrote: but how was the stolen?
You're missing the point. Google is a big company and therefore bad.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
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Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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GenJerDan wrote: If there were no Google or Facebook, the journalists would have had their stories shown once, probably just locally, with no, or almost no, additional monies coming in for any particular story.
Yes, that's why so many news outlets that were thriving have been going out of business more and more since google and facebook started stealing all the revenues that previously went to the news outlets.
So many journalists are now out of work because half the money to pay for them is being stolen -- or do you honestly believe that massive unemployment and ever-lowering salaries in the industry are because google and facebook are pouring so much money into the industry?
With the Internet, news is bigger than it has ever been, and record amounts of money are being raked in for news -- but somehow there is not enough money to even maintain the size of workforce that was in place twenty years ago.
But I suppose you think that these stupid journalists don't realise how good they've got it -- I mean, google and facebook make their stories available for them, and all they demand is most of the money for doing so.
At least the few of them that are left can almost afford to feed their children.
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"News" never made any money. Television stations hated having to provide it, but it was included in the "contract" they had, to be allowed to broadcast. Public service, and all that.
Newspapers were dying for a long time before the internet. People don't like to read them these days, except maybe on Sunday, and that "these days" long precedes the internet, too.
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Apparently that news report is fiction. The dollar figure was derived from a made up valuation of the Google news search division in 2008. In other words, it wasn't a "study" at all, but some quick projections based on a valuation, not earnings.
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A group at the University of Massachusetts Amherst set out to assess the energy consumption that is needed to train four large neural networks. What if my machine-learning is a hybrid?
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So a green AI will end up being too green?
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Quote: Deep learning involves processing very large amounts of data. (The paper specifically examined the model training process for natural-language processing, the subfield of AI that focuses on teaching machines to handle human language, said Hao.) Donna Lu in New Scientist quoted Strubell, who said, "In order to learn something as complex as language, the models have to be large." What price making models obtain gains in accuracy? Roping in exceptionally large computational resources to do so is the price, causing substantial energy consumption.
Hao reported their findings, that "the process can emit more than 626,000 pounds of carbon dioxide equivalent—nearly five times the lifetime emissions of the average American car (and that includes manufacture of the car itself)."
Caveat Emptor.
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Researchers from Northeastern University, University of Massachusetts, Amherst and Czech Technical University in Prague, published a paper on the Impact of Programming Languages on Code Quality which is a reproduction of work by Ray et al published in 2014 at the Foundations of Software Engineering (FSE) conference. A flawed scientific study? Whaaaaaa?
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What I've learned from this is that I want to change my surname to "et Al".
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Et gets so many publications. I'm surprised they have the ability to do so much research!
TTFN - Kent
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A look at the ENIAC Operating Manual, published 75 years ago this month, reveals just how difficult it was to program the world's first electronic general-purpose computer and how frustrating it must have been for its programmers. Because you never know when you might have to maintain one
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[millennial]
Which switchy thing opens youtube?
[/millennial]
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At least they had documentation! 
Latest Article - A 4-Stack rPI Cluster with WiFi-Ethernet Bridging
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Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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For one reason or another security never really gets the importance it deserves. "Warriors, come out to play-ay."
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Why exactly is it that people who sit behind computers all day like to call themselves warriors?
I'm pretty certain that Freud isn't involved.
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Ugh. My normal response to someone trying to force gamified crap down my throat is to decide I want to play a different game - called "can I break the system by ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ing with it"; but in this case it'd play right into the ![Sunshine | [little ray of sunshine]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/sunshine.gif) 's hands. The only winning move appears to be not to play at all.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Starting as early as next year, NASA will make the International Space Station available to space tourists and other business ventures. Does that include a continental breakfast?
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The article quoted: $22,500 for access to supplies, an additional $11,250 for stuff like water, oxygen, and use of the toilet
So, even if you've won the lottery, sooner or later you'll have to take a Heechee ship out.
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Microsoft wants more hackers participation in finding flaws in its flagship cloud service, Microsoft Azure. It's expensive. Please send cheque or money-order to...
Yeah, I know. Not that expensive, but it was the only "flaw" I could think of.
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