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Hi All,
The new coffee machines at work are odd. Bean to cup! you get the usual buzz word coffees and the Decaf versions including Espresso decaf  , why, I always thought Espresso was a quick short I need to be awake NOW, this second. A decaf version I think would concentrated coffee taste and thats it. I suppose it's offered as it used as base for the other drinks...but why?  ![Java | [Coffee]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif)
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I guess caffeine is addictive, and can lead to nasty side effects when abused of. Some like to get the placebo effect from it, though. Metabolisation time[^] being 45 minutes, the "NOW" effect does come from your brain, which reacts to the fact that it now knows that you have drank a coffee.
enum HumanBool { Yes, No, Maybe, Perhaps, Probably, ProbablyNot, MostLikely, MostUnlikely, HellYes, HellNo, Wtf }
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phil.o wrote: which reacts to the fact that it now knows that you have drank a coffee.
No, no - it wakes up in anticipation!
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Like a diesel engine?
enum HumanBool { Yes, No, Maybe, Perhaps, Probably, ProbablyNot, MostLikely, MostUnlikely, HellYes, HellNo, Wtf }
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I just drank a large strong cup of proper (not decaffeinated) coffee, but I still feel as dozy and stupid as before. 
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MAybe you just dreamt you drank it.
Have another to check.
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Tolerance to caffeine can build up. I have friends who can drink coffee and go to sleep after it. I'd be awake, staring at the ceiling.
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Well I have been drinking it for over 60 years.
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I am one of those that started drinking Coffee at age 8 about 62 years ago. I can have a cup before bed and fall asleep with no trouble.
I attribute this more to a clear conscience and a pure heart than to tolerance to caffeine... 
Only the good die young -- Billy Joel. What happened to me?
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Oh. So we could serve him a tea made from my worn socks and it would work as long as he believes that this is coffee? Great. I think I will not wash socks anymore. Instead I'm going to shredder them and fill them into capsules, which I sell just under the current gold price.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I don't think the worn sock thing is going to work; anyone may throw up, preventing the placebo effect.
enum HumanBool { Yes, No, Maybe, Perhaps, Probably, ProbablyNot, MostLikely, MostUnlikely, HellYes, HellNo, Wtf }
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Never understood it either. And yet it is common...
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Dear Bob! I thought it was an aberration of these machines.... 
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My former boss ordered a change of the vending machine because he wanted the decaf.
Poor man, he slept almost the whole 8 hours (well, he used to leave after 5 or 6) of work, if he drank coffee it would ruin his sleep schedule.
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Would you be interested in buying some of my special blend capsules? Not decaf, honestly.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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No, but I can ask to some of my former coworkers. Coffee and hygiene in that place were truly horrible, it would be an improvement.
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Have one of those machines in the apartment building I live.
About a year ago I started to drink espresso slowly with a cube of raw sugar on the side for afterwards while taking a break during the day. Picked it up from my little brother and sister-in-law. According to them that is the proper Italian way to drink it. While I still roll my eyes when I think about it, they do spend a few weeks there near Bologna every couple of years. Her family has been doing it for a few decades now.
That said, I'd never trust espresso out of a super fancy Keurig to actually be any good.
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Please, tell your brother and sister-in-law that that is not the "proper italian way" to drink your espresso; it's just a habit of that family.
Drink it the way you like and enjoy it.
I'm italian, trust me 
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Member 10067507 wrote: Drink it the way you like and enjoy it.
What if the way someone likes and enjoys it is blended with ice, milk, sugar, and chocolate? 
Seriously though, my coffee habits over the years have changed from "Don't like the flavor" to "A little sugar is all I need". I'm still not above having a coffee dessert drink now and again though.
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so they suck the caffeine out of the beans and produce something that looks and tastes like coffee, but most likely will just give you a headache
and then blend the extracted caffeine into medicines to help alleviate headaches?
me doc gave me some extra strong ones for migraine, and yeah, they help
drinking 5 large cups of coffee also helps, but need to keep getting up to pee.
pills have other stuff in them, ibuprofen or similar base nsaid, so with a headache the pills do do a better job than drinking coffee:
- 2 pills, 1 - 2 cups of coffee, and a nice little nap - all good again.
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AFAIK, espresso shots have less caffeine than a regular drip coffee cup ...
that being said,
A lot of people like the smell (mostly) and taste of coffee but do not want to have the caffeine that comes with it.
Personally, I couldn't care less if people like of not decaf coffee.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Well I just found it odd knowing the reputation it had to have a version without it's main feature... 
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Espresso has less caffeine than other versions of coffee:
* Caffeine is not easily water soluble, so brewing methods with shorter brewing cycles extract less caffeine. A good espresso machine has a brewing cycle of ~30 seconds vs. 3-5 minutes for a drip machine.
* Dark roasts typically have less caffeine than lighter roasts.
* The serving size for espresso is typically smaller than other brewing methods, so if all other things were equal, there's less caffeine.
To make things more confusing, different varieties of coffee bean naturally have different amounts of caffeine.
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I absolutely love my coffee (as any good programmer should). But when I had heart problems and diagnosed with 2 separate types of palpitations, large doses of caffeine are a no go anymore.
Decaf has been a blessing as I can continue to enjoy a cup of coffee with colleagues but not affect my condition.
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Me too. I was already drinking decaf (caffeine starting to give me headaches) but when the heart problems showed up there was a distinct correlation to caffeine. I can still tolerate a couple of non-decafs a day (so long as I keep taking the tablets!). But alcohol.... never a heavy drinker, even half a glass of lowish-alcohol wine not only gives me a migraine but causes severe heart flutter etc. So teetotal now 
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