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What I tend to find with a vast majority of these ones that are easily worked round, is quite simply that 90% of them are implemented using some kind of CMS, or a 3rd party cloud CMS service that specialises in that area.

As a result, you do often find that the company calling the shots (The telegraph, The New York Times etc) are usually just either just a client, or if they are developing and hosting the site in house, the developers are really only tasked with making sure the base system is running and working alright.

Many of the news papers in the UK for example ALL USE the same CMS system (I forget what it's called) but if you take a lot of them and F12 to look at the code, you'll find the code is 99% identical.

When I was working in Ad-Tech for these companies back in around 2010, the JS and front end stuff, was 99% designed, developed and coded by the "art & design team", the company I was working with where trying to take a new approach to adding Javascript into the page designs to help manage and display Ad creatives, and pretty much every "technical" question we asked was met with a blank stare and a comment along the lines of "No Idea, unless there is a JS/NPM/jQuery plugin for it"

Eventually for a lot of them we had to go to the parent company to find the ACTUAL developers of the CMS, and approaching them with said questions was again frustrating as we where met with "Dunno, no idea we leave our clients to deal with the frontend stuff, we just provide them with a template and an API to work with.

Couple of examples:

https://www.heraldscotland.com/
https://www.darlingtonandstocktontimes.co.uk/
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/

If you F12 all of those you will see the following
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The evening Chronicle & Sunderland Echo websites on the other hand look the same as each other, but are obviously from a different company.

So in many cases, the JS code you see that is easily averted are because the company no longer has any programmers itself, and what limited programming work is done is left to the "visual & design" folks to do, many of which understand only NPM and other similar JS tools that do everything for them.
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