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David O'Neil wrote: And it would give me 'personalized ads' for doing so - as if that is a good thing.
It's only going to get worse as we go further and further into the recession the TV lies about.
Jeremy Falcon
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Yup, debian is your friend. Do Windows programming stuff in a VM. 
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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But you're still dealing with Windows, with the extra headache of dealing with Debian and VMs. 
There are no solutions, only trade-offs. - Thomas Sowell
A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)
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Headaches? Not here. Hosting VM's on Linux is very smooth for me. I use both VMware Workstation and ESXi.
I have very few problems, and don't see much in the way of problems by mostly using Windows VM's for what little programming I do these days. It is also very handy for administering the surveillance software via VPN. Rarely use W11, although I have a VM.
I understand the vitriol towards Mac and Linux here, but use them very happily. Also use Windows when I consider it appropriate.
YMMV
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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Over the years I've occasionally tried using various flavors of Linux since version 0.99 (that came on something like 30 1.44MB floppies). In every try I waste more time trying to get it to work and/or configured than actually using it. Life's too short.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs. - Thomas Sowell
A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)
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Just to be clear, I've no hatred of either Linux or Mac. I own and use a MacBook Pro and iPad for my music production and like them fine, as well as my iPhone. As for Linux I just don't have the time or interest to overcome the issues I've had with it or the learning curve of using it, and even if I did it cannot do everything I need it to do with the tools I already own.
There are no solutions, only trade-offs. - Thomas Sowell
A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)
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Whatever "headaches" are created by using VMs are offset (and then some) by the fact that backing up the whole OS becomes as simple as backing up the one file representing the disk. I wish it were that easy to manage backups with a "real" OS.
Not to mention portability. Since the hardware is virtualized, you're using the same drivers everywhere (eg, you don't even have to think about it), so there's no worry about moving a VM to potentially incompatible hardware.
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A elephanting men! Today's PCs have so much capability, running on the base iron is insane. We are not talking about gaming.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Aye... absolute pain in the A**
I spend more time hunting for common settings, than I do actually changing them.
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Meeting time for application of cream? (11)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Appointment = Meeting time
App = application
cream = ointment
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You are up tomorrow! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Aaarrrggghhhh!
I got stuck on CONJUNCTION = Meeting. UNCTION = the application of ointment. But I couldn't figure in the CONJ. When the whole time the definition of UNCTION was screaming the actual solution at me. 
Ya gotta know when to fold 'em. 
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And know when to walk away, and know when to run ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Wordle 844 5/6
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Wordle 844 4/6
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Wordle 844 5/6
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Wordle 844 3/6
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Wordle 844 4/6
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Wordle 844 6/6
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“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Wordle 844 4/6*
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Wordle 844 4/6
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In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Wordle 844 5/6
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Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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