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GuyThiebaut wrote: Apoptosis is one good reason.
Well, no one ever claimed that I was a biologist...
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I am not either  (Apoptosis - the inherent programmed self-destruction of cells, something missing in cancer cells)
I was just lucky enough to work for a company that did gene editing, so I had the chance to have lots of really interesting conversations with the biologists.
It turns out that it's really difficult keeping a cell line alive, even the immortal cell lines and, in the company I worked for, there were people who specialised in knowing how to passage(copy and paste) the cell cultures.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Reminds me of "Mrs. 'Awkins" in the novella Methuselah's Children by Robert Heinlein. Mrs. 'Awkins was chicken tissue that had been kept alive for decades and simply kept growing. I remember one of the characters saying they wished the damned thing would die already so they could figure out what kept it alive.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Yes, I was thinking of that, too. I didn't want to enter irrelevancies like a science-fictional case into the discussion.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Seven billion people and rising all need to eat.
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There's a lot of money going into cultured meat research. While the people doing the research are telling the world "yeah, nearly there; we could just do with another million investment to fine-tune stuff" there are others who are taking a different view - that we can go on piling the investment in and yet never reach a feasible solution. It's a long article, and I've not yet read it all, but thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale
[^] picks apart the issues...
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Posted in the wrong decade?
trønderen wrote: The root do not dig down into natural soil, but cling to balls of expanded clay aggregate, being 'fed' by a nutrition solution washing over their roots. Anyone raising critical remarks to this is immediately classified along with 'tree huggers' and the like.
You mean hydroponics? Or basically just a variation of that. That has existed and been used for thousands of years.
trønderen wrote: I don't know for sure that farming science is yet ready for this kind of meat production
They have been experimenting with vat grown meat for two decades.
Singapore now has vat grown meat in at least one restaurant.
Chicken has been approved for sale in the US as of this year.
Multiple places are working with beef also.
trønderen wrote: how morally acceptable is it?
Which is why there was a conference now some years ago to decide whether vat grown meat was kosher or not. Or if it could be prepared in a kosher way.
I think there was another such meeting to decide another related issue more recently.
As to whether a vegan or vegetarian might consider that ok or not there is no authority for them. Given that it still starts with original meat I suspect most will pass.
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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My adblocker software now pops its own ads at me.
Can anyone recommend one that doesn't, and will block youtube ad content in videos? I'm on Chrome, mostly.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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I use Malwarebytes for general protection. They have a chrome add-on that blocks advs and tracking. (no extra advs)
However, Youtube now downloads code to detect adv blockers and pops up a nasty message warning you to either turn the adv blocker off or purchase the adv free Youtube. (I have discontinued most of my youtube viewing in response to this).
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You're using the wrong ad-blocker then. You can still block ads on youtube. I do it every day.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Hey, thanks.
It's not doing it anymore. When I got the message I checked around and found that people were complaining that youtube was downloading unwanted code to run and detect adv blockers, so I just stopped viewing.
Malwarebytes not only blocks ads and tracking but also traps redirects, unwanted downloads of code and links to sketchy sites. so I am not turning it off.
Thanks again.
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honey the codewitch wrote: You're using the wrong ad-blocker then.
I think I speak for most people who have read your response when I ask, well, then, what's the name of an ad blocker that blocks youtube ads without incurring the wrath of the almighty Google?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I'm using Ad Block and Ad Block plus. One of them ends up blocking youtube. It also pops its own ads lately. So I'm looking to move. I'll try uBlock Origin next
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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