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ZurdoDev wrote: Not sure what that has to do with Agile. But I suppose in your mind it does.
Not just my mind; if you disbelieve science then your word isn't valid here.
ZurdoDev wrote: What is my kind?
A believer; doesn't matter is if you religious, you act like one.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: if you disbelieve science then your word isn't valid here.
Still not sure what this has to do with Agile. Are you suggesting Agile is a scientific process? 
Also, you know science is not 100% correct, so anyone who "believes" science blindly is just as foolish as one who ignores science. But not sure why this is even a topic.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: doesn't matter is if you religious, you act like one.
You're pretty much self-proclaiming to be a bigot now. Congrats. 
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ZurdoDev wrote: Still not sure what this has to do with Agile. Are you suggesting Agile is a scientific process?
Never said that.
ZurdoDev wrote: Also, you know science is not 100% correct, so anyone who "believes" science blindly is just as foolish as one who ignores science
The scientific method is 100% correct, even if measurments aren't. Science does NOT require belief; it can be validated by everyone.
ZurdoDev wrote: But not sure why this is even a topic.
It isn't a topic. This is just me pissing on you, publicly.
ZurdoDev wrote: You're pretty much self-proclaiming to be a bigot now. Congrats.
Look the word up; opposite to you, I do not "believe"; and we need not believe. Since science, we can verify and measure for ourselves. Science is not a belief; it is the end of belief and the beginning of knowledge
As for your complaint that I been targetting you; I was just answering your bullshit.
No more. You can spout your drivel freely without me opposing you.
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Even the working mastery of Wally becomes complicated when you don't have a Wally-compatible partner...
Hey, let's slack in the CP Lounge...
But only one of the pair can write messages.
Oh sanctissimi Wilhelmus, Theodorus, et Fredericus!
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I'd have to think that the biggest reason of all is that you can't fart when you need to.
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Perfect, because it would also keep them quiet. 
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I'm an old ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) , so I can tell you this: I. Won't. Pair. Program. EVER. I'll do code reviews, I'll do stand-ups, I'll put Post-It™'s on a wallboard every day to show µ-progress if you want. I would mentor a less-experienced programmer. I will not have someone hanging over my shoulder, or even worse, me handing over theirs, as we hack away through a piece of code.
My group of five developers has over 100 man-years of experience in our product domain. We work well together, and routinely debug into each other's code. We pair-debug on occasion. Pair programming would be completely disruptive for us. To say we each have our idiosyncrasies is to put it mildly. A couple of the guys use a dark theme on their desktop and their IDE. Some work with music, some not. I create structure (classes and members) top-down, and then fill in the code. Others fill in from the top down, others from the bottom up. We have a simple naming convention which each of us implements in our own way.
Pair programming would completely break the eminently effective workflow we have.
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With this endless need to make decisions, and hours on end of coding, developers may find themselves leaning towards the option that presents the least amount of friction. Or just get sauced
Two articles on pair programming! Try to guess which one is pro and which is con. It's a toughie!
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NOTE: This is not a critique of your post I'm just replying to the first post in this thread.
The worst that will happen is that once a threshold is crossed, where enough of private business data is solely in the cloud and it will happen because most of the people involved with making that call can't see past the cost savings their told they will see from moving to the cloud, those who truly hold the power, the cloud providers, will then have every business by the balls.
TOS (Terms of service) allow these data thieves to get away with far more then someone could who comes into your office and tries to steal your data. If you think that any promises made or even an agreement signed is going to ensure your privacy is respected then your a fool.
The cloud as its being marketed and has been for the last decade is little more then a long con designed to move all data that means anything from the hands of individual companies to a select few who run the cloud. Not only is it foolish to think your privacy will be protected but you can damn be sure that access to it will also not always be there. Separate from outages (like as of recent) there will come a point when what you and those in your company do could curtail your access to your own data. Big tech is already trying its best to police individual users and you can bet that companies will be next. Unless something major happens and maybe it will thanks to this latest blow up with Big tech openly censoring the NY Post, they WILL eventually tell companies including those with agreements what is expected if they wish to continue to access/use their cloud based data and most will capitulate because
A) it will be cost prohibitive to try de-cloud your and its cost little to tell any one in your company they need to fall in line else be fired
B) what the cloud providers will require cost little to the business to enforce namely that their employees get inline with the program
if you think this all sounds conspiratorial and thus not possible and will never happen then you need only turn on the news to see how what was not possible 5-10 years ago is playing out now. Big tech openly censors and brags about its efforts to control elections. Do you really think they won't try to pressure business via the cloud?
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Might it be that you answered in the wrong place?
@Sean-Ewington would you mind to move the message I am answering to to the correct place?
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Yeah. somehow this post got into the wrong thread, it was about the cloud article and not this one on decision fatigue and yes I am just now catching it. My company decided emails from the code project forums needed to be quarantined.
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YSLGuru wrote: emails from the code project forums needed to be quarantined.
At least they didn't get deleted 
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Confidence in the security of cloud-based data solutions is growing, as more and more organizations decide to move sensitive data off-premises. What's the worst that will happen?
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Kent Sharkey wrote: What's the worst that will happen?
They will learn it the hard way... sadly. 
And the worst thing... we will pay the consequences (as almost always)   
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Nelek wrote: They will learn it the hard way
Are you suggesting your data on your server is more secure than on a server where there are teams of people working on securing it?
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Not necessarily.
But they are higher in the target lists than small servers and although there are teams of people working on securing it, they are not that invulnerable, because many of the bugs and security holes are not always in their hands.
A successfully exploited bug at their side brings a lot of more people / business in troubles than a successfully exploited bug in a small local server.
It is a statistic point of view.
Besides... not the first time that the arrogance of "we are the best" brings them more problems than a modest "I try my best"
i.E.
unhackable biometric lock for smart phones
unhackable wireless update system for cars
unhackable...
Everytime someone says something similar is a provocation for a lot of people to say "Ha, screw you"
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Yes, that is all true. But I have never met a developer who was an expert on security so if you are small business it's worth trusting the cloud, in my opinion.
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ZurdoDev wrote: it's worth trusting the cloud, in my opinion.
Exactly.
In my opinion there are a lot of more factors that doesn't necessarilly have to do with the IT-security / Hacking problem.
Trying to keep it safe for the insider news (without politics) but not the first time that a company pulls a switch and then "Upps" a complete country can't access the cloud anymore and recover their data from their legally bought space.
Or that an automated process in their side decides that you are breaking the user agreements and bans you from the system without supervision by a human (or with the supervision of someone who doesn't bother to double check the facts) and then you are out and can't access you legally bought software / games / whatever you have had bound to that account.
And as I suppose you are going to say "prove it", then you might search for Adobe cutting services to a south american country (it was solved soon afterwards, but still an example) (and was spoken about it here in the insider news and/or in the lounge) or a lot of users worldwide who have lost their MS accounts and lost (in some cases) hundreds of € or $ in games from their XBox and other similar things. AFAIK there have already been reported some dozens only here in Germany. You can search for "Vorsicht Kunde" (Watch out, customer) from C'T Magazine (A tech oriented publication here that helps users in troubles against big companies)
TL;DR; it is not only about the security, it is about the privacy, ownership, accessibility and other aspects too.
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Nelek wrote: it is about the privacy, ownership, accessibility and other aspects too.
Ya, I understand that.
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As nelek said, it's not only an issue of security, but of ownership.
It is irrelevant whether the data are my holiday snapshots or my company's proprietary IP. If they are resident on a remote server, their distribution is no longer under my control. I find that unacceptable, which is why I will never store anything important to me in the "cloud".
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: their distribution is no longer under my control. I find that unacceptable, which is why I will never store anything important to me in the "cloud".
Which is fine. I have no problem with that.
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I just want to add one more thing to this. I was warning of the foolishness of the cloud more then 10 years ago when it was first being marketed as the digital savior of mankind and at the time it was viewed as tin foil hat craziness. As humans we often choose to disbelieve something like this is possible because we base our perception of how the world is from our own personal experiences and so if we haven't experienced it then its not possible when its something extreme. I wish I could say to those naysayers from 10 years ago "Told you so" but I'd rather have been wrong about this then right.
The best policy one can have is to assume nothing is ever as advertised. Its OK to prepare for the worst but hope for the best . In the case of the cloud most businesses have prepared for the best and refused to believe of anything else was even possible.
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YSLGuru wrote: Its OK to prepare for the worst but hope for the best . In the case of the cloud most businesses have prepared for the best and refused to believe of anything else was even possible.
M.D.V.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: What's the worst that will happen?
Someone else can spend their days making sure my data is secure instead of me hoping no one ever finds it.
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