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It always amazes me that so few people who ask questions in a forum know how to use a search engine. Just typing "KB913393" into Google, Yahoo, AND Microsoft's Search box on MSDN and again on Microsoft's Support page, came up with this KB article[^] describing exactly what you're talking about.
Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP
Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007
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Hi Everyone,
Can someone provide some information on what type of responsibilities
come with jobs in the data layer?
I presently work in middleware, and I find interfacing with multiple
systems difficult and painful. I've often been told that life in the
data layer is peaceful and easier compared to life in middleware, as
it involves much lesser coding. (Mainly complex SQL and huge stored
procs only).
Does anyone have some idea what people really do in the data layer?
I'm not talking about DB admins and architects, but the general
employees of the data layer. And is it also true that one has to be
fairly experienced to get into a job in the data layer?
Some advice regarding this would be really helpful, as I'm thinking of
a career switch.
Thanks in advance.
ASP - AJAX is SEXY. PERIOD.
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I guess no one here knows anything about the worklife in the database layer.
how strange.
ASP - AJAX is SEXY. PERIOD.
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Probably the reason you didn't get any replies is that working in the data layer is much of a muchness with working anywhere else in a piece of software.
Bulky Fellow wrote: I've often been told that life in the
data layer is peaceful and easier compared to life in middleware, as
it involves much lesser coding.
Does it? If there is less quantity it is probably because there is more thought put into it. But then, if people put more thought into the code they write elsewhere there would be less quantity and higher quality.
Bulky Fellow wrote: Does anyone have some idea what people really do in the data layer?
Query the database. I don't really know how to answer that. It is pretty much like working anywhere else. You write code, you test code, you fix bugs, you release/deploy the code.
Bulky Fellow wrote: the general
employees of the data layer
I'm not sure that the data layer, being an abstract concept, can employ anyone. It would be your company that employed you.
Bulky Fellow wrote: And is it also true that one has to be
fairly experienced to get into a job in the data layer?
Not if some of the complete crap I've had to deal with is any indication.
I would suspect you would have to know more about how databases work than in any other layer, but that's about it. It is just like working anywhere else - You have to know how the thing you are interfacing with works.
Bulky Fellow wrote: Some advice regarding this would be really helpful, as I'm thinking of
a career switch.
It is hardly a career switch.
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Foll is my code:
Private Function ParseMail() As String
On Error GoTo ErrTrap
'
'Parameters
'
'Purpose This procedure will check and let us know what action to be
' taken aginst the command sent from mobile
'
'Comments
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'Returns String - Command parsed from the mail
'
'Change History
'Date Edit Author Comment
'-----------+-------+-------+---------------------------------------------
'27-Jan-07 [100] Jay Created
'29-Jan-07 [101] Jay Added parameter values parsing facility
'-----------+-------+-------+---------------------------------------------
'
'Set up our variables
Dim oApp As Outlook.Application 'Create an object for outlook application
Dim oNpc As NameSpace 'Name space to drildown message folder
Dim oMails As MailItem 'To find our mail
Dim sCommand As String
Dim iMsgCount As Integer
Dim sMsgHead As String
'Lets apply values to our variables
Set oApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
Set oNpc = oApp.GetNamespace("MAPI")
iMsgCount = 0
'Lets iterate through an easy For Each loop
For Each oMails In oNpc.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderInbox).Items
If oMails.UnRead Then
sParam = ""
'Change the Subject comparition string based on your service provider message
If UCase(oMails.Subject) = UCase(Trim(txtSubject.Text)) Then
sCommand = Mid(oMails.Body, 1, InStr(1, oMails.Body, Chr(13)) - 1)
If InStr(1, sCommand, "~") <> 0 Then
ParseMail = Mid(sCommand, 1, InStr(1, sCommand, "~") - 1)
sParam = Mid(sCommand, InStr(1, sCommand, "~") + 1)
Else
ParseMail = sCommand
End If
oMails.UnRead = False
End If
' If Send Unread mail Header is checked then send info to mobile
If chkUnReadMail.Value = 1 Then
If UCase(oMails.Subject) <> UCase(Trim(txtSubject.Text)) Then
If InStr(1, sAlertedMails, Trim(oMails.EntryID)) = 0 Then
sAlertedMails = sAlertedMails & Trim(oMails.EntryID) & ","
sMsgHead = "From: " & oMails.SenderName & vbCrLf
sMsgHead = sMsgHead & "Sub: " & oMails.Subject & vbCrLf
sMsgHead = sMsgHead & "DT: " & oMails.SentOn & vbCrLf
sMsgHead = sMsgHead & "MSGID: " & oMails.EntryID & "~"
SendSMS sMsgHead
End If
End If
End If
End If
Next oMails
Exit Function
ErrTrap:
txtLog = txtLog & "Error In ParseMail(): "
txtLog = txtLog & Err.Description & vbCrLf
End Function
I m having a compile error :"Object required"and also "Invalid Parameter call or argument". I think this may be due to the line "sCommand = Mid(oMails.Body, 1, InStr(1, oMails.Body, Chr(13)) - 1)". Plz help.
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You're either posting in the wrong place, or cross posting the entire site. This should be in the VB forum, and no-where else.
You *think* it's that line ? What does the compiler say ? It looks like the params you're specifying are wrong. Break this line into many steps and see which one fails to compile.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
"I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Hi Everybody,
Sorry my message may be big .
I have a website which should be deployed on Non-IIS webserver with
this website registered on client system.
I choosed Cassini Webserver for non-IIS webserver.
I have registered the website for this server but i have added
UltiDevCassiniWebServer2.exe file in the bin folder of the websetup project
but i am not able to install that one.
I am getting the error message
Component UltiDev Cassini Web Server for ASP.NET 2.0 has failed to install with the following error message:
"Another installation is already in progress. Complete that installation before proceeding with this install. "
The following components failed to install:
- UltiDev Cassini Web Server for ASP.NET 2.0
See the setup log file located at 'C:\DOCUME~1\SUNIL~1.MER\LOCALS~1\Temp\VSD293.tmp\install.log' for more information.
Can you tell me any solution for this.Waiting for the solution.
With Regards,
Mahesh.
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I guess you might have another project with the same name that was intsalled previously..Just check in the add/remove programs whether there is yet another program with the same name..if yes you need to uninstall that first..
I was born dumb!!
 Programming made me laugh !!!
--sid--
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Hai this is sundeeppatil having Interview In IBM.So this is my first interview so if u have attented for this can u plz share regarding Technical ans HR rouns.
Sundeeppatil
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sundeeppatil wrote: this is my first interview so if u have attented for this can u plz share regarding Technical ans HR rouns.
If I attended that, why would I wish to help someone else get the job instead of me?
Also, if I were IBM why would I give the job to someone who cannot write proper sentences without degrading into text speak.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: if I were IBM why would I give the job to someone who cannot write proper sentences without degrading into text speak.
No kidding 
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I have an unusual situation. I've been working on an invention of mine and in the process I needed to create an electronic circuit that would send information through a serial port. I taught myself how to program in visual basic and a microcontroller version of c. Anyways I like programming and I am interested in becoming a programmer.
Looking at the job market I think I need to learn some other skill like sql, some web programming stuff, and c++ (I could probably teach myself c# or java). So my question is, what is the quickest and cheapest path to take to get more training and something official to show employers that I know how to program and get a job as a programmer? Are all training programs/colleges going to force me to take alot of irrelevent courses? And can you get a job by passing a certification tests or do you need a degree?
Any help will be much appreciated,
Mike
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Most colleges will have you take things like physical education classes and liberal arts. Some people feel that those are irrelevant courses, but I don't. I have interviewed people that can from Devry that only had technical classes. I was not impressed with them at all. They lacked a depth that you get from having those other courses. For example, having a liberal arts course where you get up in front of people on a regular basis and present things to a group gives you skills that you will not find sitting in front of a PC and coding all day.
You should at least get an associates degree. From there you MIGHT be able to find someone to give you a job programming and that would pay for the rest of your schooling. Having that piece of paper shows employers that you can follow instruction, complete tasks that you start and are assigned. These are things that are important to people. I know of places that have hired people without a degree, but the pay will be ALOT less.
Steve Maier
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Can you give me the name of the place that hiring people with low salary
BMP
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I said HAD hired and not are hiring right now. There are a lot of places to look for low pawing jobs, such as your local newspaper. I know that in today's electronic age we hate to think that the newspaper would give us anything we cannot get online, but sometimes they do list entry level positions. Search monster for entry level programming position.
Steve Maier
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Without a degree, you're probably only going to be able to get a job for a really small company that's making a hiring decision off a portfolio of stuff you've written while ignoring your lack of paper. Among actual working IT people (as opposed to HR and PHBs) most certs aren't seen as particularly valuable as an indication of your ability to do anything other than pass a test. Without a degree they might be more important, even if you don't pay for the tests actually learning the content covered (as opposed to being able to regurgitate test answers) can give you a decent overview of the technology in question.
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CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem].
Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?
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Which Certification should I give for C++?
Can anyone suggest me the material, paper-questions, or any other helpful information for C++ Certification?
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I've never been asked about certifications in all my jobs and interviews. Don't waste your money.
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Hi
I'm a new member of codeproject.I completed MCA.
I've no experience to get a job.Is certification help me to get a job
pls help me
Thanks & Regards
Bim
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The knowledge and indepth experience helps and not just papyrus products, which a local shack or training center can 'purchase' for a couple of exchange of bills. At least with respect to India, certifications have got lesser values nowdays with huge organizations since the amount of fake certifications have been steadily increasing. Personally from the Interview panel, I can figure out whether the candidate is actually skilled or not, in less than 5 minutes, regardless of the flashy certifications that he may brandish.
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If someone do not have any experience what should he/she do to get a IT job?
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Volunteer on some projects (open source, community websites, etc) and build up your experience. Some places that I have interviewed like that I wrote articles for CP and others liked that I did .NET researching on the side for my own projects too.
Steve Maier
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sorry, I didn't understand what is community website
BMP
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hmmmm.... CodeProject, any forums on Yahoo or Google groups, a local church/club, take your pick.
Steve Maier
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